You know, Mastodon is cool and all, but when you get right down to it Twitter-style communications just kind of fundamentally suck for some kinds of stuff.
You know what’d be cool? An ActivityPub-powered web forum, or a LIveJournal-style personal blog but with some of Tumblr’s social aspects thanks to being able to network with other blogs.
Make Web 4.0 into Web 1.0 again.
@SenorOblong I would really prefer a microblogging platform or social medium that was based around subscribing to _conversations_, not to users
@benhamill @mona @SenorOblong what if conversations were like forum topics - anyone can start one, replies are non-threaded - and would appear by latest update in a Forum Timeline. You could subscribe to them to see them in your Home Timeline
Maybe it works better if the replies *are* threaded, but you can subscribe to any specific post to see its child threads in your Home TL
Does this look good? Is this Good Interaction?
@wersimmon @mona @SenorOblong Hmmmmmmm. I don't know. I think having replies for all the topics in one timeline would be confusing? But I'm not sure how an alternative would differ much from forum software that lets you sort topics by ones you've posted in/faved that have activity since you last looked. 🤔🤔🤔
@benhamill @wersimmon @mona The idea of it being federated would basically be that you might be able to get something like that old ecosystem of a bunch of disparate personal forums and blogs, but still with the social-network interoperation features that drove everyone to the centralized sites in the first place.
@thinkMoult no I'm not
Yes, definitely. I have ideas on how you’d want something like this to look and work - think a good old traditional PHBB forum, with subforums and sub-subforums and then threads within subforums. But you’d be able to federate with other forums, say “hey, this particular subforum matches up pretty well to your other subforum”, and so you’d be able to see not only the list of active threads in your subforum but an additional view of active threads in other communities that are in the same topic. And you’d be able to post in these threads from other forums, and vice-versa.
@mona @benhamill or maybe eliminate tags entirely, and you know what topic a post is about because it’s in a LiveJournal-style community that formed around a particular topic; communities or blogs as a whole might have searchable tags to help discoverability, but you wouldn’t have the “tag = fandom” thing Tumblr has.
@SenorOblong wait where did web 3.0 go
@SenorOblong yeah okay that makes sense.
@SenorOblong serious question: what does federation add to the traditional forum model? It’s been years since I’ve touched PHPBB and the like, but i feel like there’s probably plenty of perfectly good modern forum software that exists right now. For instance, i can’t imagine really wanting to follow a forum user from here, seeing their contextless forum posts in my timeline. But maybe there’s a cool benefit I’m not thinking of!
@SenorOblong i do really like the idea of federated/activity pub LJ style software though!
@coda @SenorOblong federated forums would allow you to participate in threads without having to sign up multiple times for each new forum. it'd be like a global forum where you could follow topics instead of users. think usenet BBS, and how that could be replicated across servers. that can't be done with existing selfhosted forum software, where posts/threads/accounts exist only on one server.
@SenorOblong it wouldn’t be impossible to group replies under the OP then reboosr the OP when it gets a reply... combine that with a CE-like title and your timeline would then act like a forum with heavy user filtering.
@SenorOblong i just want to know why my Mastodon profile won't play music
@SenorOblong that's called RSS. You want RSS.
Oh wait, you wanted conversations. Mailing lists. It comes with SMTP based notifications. Completely federated.
It totally exists already.
@SenorOblong the only thing I can think of that is close to this is Plume. I haven't had time to build a server yet but I am interested in using ActivityPub for blogging as well. Not sure it is 100% of what you are looking for but that's the beauty of opensource get to coding and make it how you want it, no one is stopping you.
@SenorOblong Friendica has forums and personal posts with ActivityPub API support.
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